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We got talking about the pastoral and utopia and we had so much to talk about that we’ve had to divide this one into two whole episodes. In this, the first part of our pastoral/utopia deep dive, we talk about the spectacle and mystery of Chinese vlogger Li Ziqi, via some old favourites including wrestling, Terry Pratchett’s A Hat Full of Sky, mould, allotments, and Christopher Marlowe the horny shepherd.
